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Old 07-08-06, 09:54 AM
madmax155 madmax155 is offline
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Default bad call after the turn?

mwara24 is at seat 0 with 6275.
madmax11 is at seat 1 with 4430.
rosesjr is at seat 2 with 1405.
madmax15 is at seat 3 with 1695.
Solkani is at seat 4 with 1390.
1sillyman is at seat 5 with 7295.
green_dragon is at seat 6 with 2560.
jazzypoof09 is at seat 7 with 4440.
AAAAKicker is at seat 8 with 2480.
All_Outer is at seat 9 with 2330.
The button is at seat 3.

Solkani posts the small blind of 20.
1sillyman posts the big blind of 40.

mwara24: -- --
madmax11: -- --
rosesjr: -- --
madmax15: Ts Tc
Solkani: -- --
1sillyman: -- --
green_dragon: -- --
jazzypoof09: -- --
AAAAKicker: -- --
All_Outer: -- --


green_dragon calls. jazzypoof09 folds. AAAAKicker
calls. All_Outer folds. mwara24 calls. madmax11
folds. rosesjr folds. madmax15 raises to 85.
Solkani calls. 1sillyman folds. green_dragon calls.
AAAAKicker calls. mwara24 calls.

Flop (board: Ks 4h Th):

Solkani checks. green_dragon checks. AAAAKicker
checks. mwara24 bets 465. madmax15 calls. Solkani
folds. green_dragon folds. AAAAKicker folds.

Turn (board: Ks 4h Th Jh):

mwara24 goes all-in for 5725. madmax15 goes all-in
for 1145. mwara24 is returned 4580 (uncalled).

Tournament all-in showdown -- players show:

mwara24 shows Kh Qh.
madmax15 shows Ts Tc.

River (board: Ks 4h Th Jh Td):

(no action in this round)


mwara24 has Kh Qh 4h Th Jh: flush, king high.
madmax15 has Ts Tc Ks Th Td: four tens.

Hand #32014008-28 Summary:

No rake is taken for this hand.
madmax15 wins 3685 with four tens.

i had a good idea that he had the flush , but got lucky
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Old 07-09-06, 05:28 PM
loserkid604 loserkid604 is offline
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you were at a 1:4 underdog when turn came. i would say it was bad idea to play so passive when hitting a set on the flop. You were lucky to hit that last 10 on the river. I would say raise pre-flop and more so when the flop came for a chance to force him to fold. None the less congrats on catching the river.
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Old 07-15-06, 10:20 PM
Arjonius Arjonius is offline
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If you believe the opponent has the flush, you have nine or 10 outs, so a little worse than 4:1. If you fold, you'd have 1145 left, which would be the short stack at the table, but with the blinds still small, not problematically small. So yes, it was a poor call.

As for betting more on the flop, it depends on the opponent. With top pair, Q kicker and the second nut flush draw, it's not clear that he would fold even to a push after the flop.
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